Podcast: Discussing sustainability storytelling in 2025 on the Engaging ESG podcast

Recently, our founder, Mike Hower, joined Kati Kallins and Jennifer Ownes on the Engaging ESG podcast for a frank conversation about ESG and sustainability communications in today's complex landscape.

The discussion explores how corporate sustainability messaging has evolved and offers strategies for navigating our fragmented media environment. Mike emphasizes the importance of sustainability professionals breaking out of echo chambers and crafting narratives that resonate even in challenging times.

Drawing historical parallels with other social movements, the conversation delves into the value of choosing battles strategically and how expanding your reading beyond sustainability literature can enhance your effectiveness as a communicator.